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Tim Panaccio
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 31 @ 8:27 PM ET
Tim Panaccio: So Why the Secrecy?
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Mar 31 @ 8:32 PM ET
Tim Panaccio: So Why the Secrecy?
- tpanaccio

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 31 @ 8:43 PM ET
There will never be full disclosure of injuries unless you want to just go ahead a paint a giant target on the injury in question. The NHL is unique in its need for this kind of secrecy. Respect it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 31 @ 8:50 PM ET
There will never be full disclosure of injuries unless you want to just go ahead a paint a giant target on the injury in question. The NHL is unique in its need for this kind of secrecy. Respect it.
- MBFlyerfan



JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Mar 31 @ 9:23 PM ET
oh Timmy, go back to sleep

Your blogs are so sleepy, if you know what I mean
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 31 @ 9:31 PM ET
oh Timmy, go back to sleep

Your blogs are so sleepy, if you know what I mean

- flyerdude17


anything remotely smelling like a controversy is what wakes him up from his slumber. give him a break, he tried to capture the spirit of the thing.
BOSS_TWEED
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: S. Jersey
Joined: 11.07.2006

Mar 31 @ 9:32 PM ET
There will never be full disclosure of injuries unless you want to just go ahead a paint a giant target on the injury in question. The NHL is unique in its need for this kind of secrecy. Respect it.
- MBFlyerfan

That logic has not really translated in the NFL, where they are far more forthright about injuries. I'm not saying that the NHL would follow the same pattern by fully disclosing injuries, rather just pointing out that injured body parts don't glaringly appear to be targeted in the NFL.
BOSS_TWEED
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: S. Jersey
Joined: 11.07.2006

Mar 31 @ 9:33 PM ET
anything remotely smelling like a controversy is what wakes him up from his slumber. give him a break, he tried to capture the spirit of the thing.
- hammarby31

Sad but true. Tim likes to sensationalize.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 31 @ 10:21 PM ET
Fortunately, we have investigative journalist Tim Panotch to get to the bottom of this.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 31 @ 11:11 PM ET
Sad but true. Tim likes to sensationalize.
- BOSS_TWEED


No interview (or lack thereof) drama; decent goaltending; team potentially playoff-bound. Holmgren has to give Tim something to write about.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 31 @ 11:25 PM ET
Fortunately, we have investigative journalist Tim Panotch to get to the bottom of this.
- BulliesPhan87


tiim's at the bottom of a peruvian mine shaft trying to fix his cell phone.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Mar 31 @ 11:40 PM ET
Tim Panaccio: So Why the Secrecy?
- tpanaccio

To (frank) with you?
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 31 @ 11:52 PM ET
That logic has not really translated in the NFL, where they are far more forthright about injuries. I'm not saying that the NHL would follow the same pattern by fully disclosing injuries, rather just pointing out that injured body parts don't glaringly appear to be targeted in the NFL.
- BOSS_TWEED

The lack of a stick helps prevent targeting of specific body parts.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 1 @ 1:20 AM ET
all of you get a life
Girouxy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Phila, PA
Joined: 02.20.2012

Apr 1 @ 6:48 AM ET
why must there be full disclosure? So you have some facts to put in your lame articles? lame. You sir, are lame.

I come to this page for real hockey, not your national inquirer wanna-be writing. It's not a soap opera, its people's lives and a business. He doesn't want to tell you, he doesn't have to. He's out, someone else is in. So instead you whine instead of giving us hockey news. Boo, lame Tim. As usual....
danham92
Joined: 02.20.2012

Apr 1 @ 8:17 AM ET
why must there be full disclosure? So you have some facts to put in your lame articles? lame. You sir, are lame.

I come to this page for real hockey, not your national inquirer wanna-be writing. It's not a soap opera, its people's lives and a business. He doesn't want to tell you, he doesn't have to. He's out, someone else is in. So instead you whine instead of giving us hockey news. Boo, lame Tim. As usual....

- Girouxy


You know what? Bob Clarke was right those so-many years ago. TP is a a**hole. To him, if a story is not handed to him, there is a conspiracy to defraud the public. Just lame.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 1 @ 8:56 AM ET
There will never be full disclosure of injuries unless you want to just go ahead a paint a giant target on the injury in question. The NHL is unique in its need for this kind of secrecy. Respect it.
- MBFlyerfan


You know that's BS, right?

The nature of injuries do eventually get reported in most instances, and some can't even be hidden (for example, Stamkos' leg)... yet we don't really hear about rampant targeting being a problem until.... the issue of secrecy comes up. And even injuries that can't be targeted are hidden.

NHL teams just seem to enjoy playing the cat and mouse game with the media... 90% of the teams won't even disclose player salaries, despite the salary cap. They would rather leak the details in secret themselves or wait for central registry to leak them.

It's all a pointless exercise that just somehow got enshrined.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 1 @ 9:02 AM ET
You know that's BS, right?

The nature of injuries do eventually get reported in most instances, and some can't even be hidden (for example, Stamkos' leg)... yet we don't really hear about rampant targeting being a problem until.... the issue of secrecy comes up. And even injuries that can't be targeted are hidden.

NHL teams just seem to enjoy playing the cat and mouse game with the media... 90% of the teams won't even disclose player salaries, despite the salary cap. They would rather leak the details in secret themselves or wait for central registry to leak them.

They're both pointless exercises that somehow got enshrined.

- Tomahawk



It's not BS. In the case of Stamkos, which is a long term injury, that required surgery, there is nothing to gain in not disclosing it. With a short term injury such as with Timonen, it's to protect the player. Paul Holmgren doesn't care about playing games with the media, he cares about his team and his players.
It can only be considered a pointless exercise if the situation is not understood.
tjp2033
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Crazy off-season brewing, NJ
Joined: 06.18.2008

Apr 1 @ 9:36 AM ET
If you've been around since '77 and the Flyers haven't won a Cup, maybe you are the problem. Boom nailed a story. Lets run with it.
jtb3rd
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 02.08.2008

Apr 1 @ 9:39 AM ET
Tim Panaccio: So Why the Secrecy?
- tpanaccio


"Having been around the game of hockey as a fan since 1967 and a writer since 1977, I sometimes wonder if I will live long enough to see a few things:"

Maybe it's time you put the pen down and enjoy retirement, Please!
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Apr 1 @ 9:51 AM ET
You know that's BS, right?

The nature of injuries do eventually get reported in most instances, and some can't even be hidden (for example, Stamkos' leg)... yet we don't really hear about rampant targeting being a problem until.... the issue of secrecy comes up. And even injuries that can't be targeted are hidden.

NHL teams just seem to enjoy playing the cat and mouse game with the media... 90% of the teams won't even disclose player salaries, despite the salary cap. They would rather leak the details in secret themselves or wait for central registry to leak them.

It's all a pointless exercise that just somehow got enshrined.

- Tomahawk


The Flyers tried to hide Giroux's hand injuries a couples years back before the playoffs. When the media finally got their hands on the story that Giroux might be experiencing hand injuries, Crosby was hacking away at Giroux's hands every chance he could.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 1 @ 10:02 AM ET
The Flyers tried to hide Giroux's hand injuries a couples years back before the playoffs. When the media finally got their hands on the story that Giroux might be experiencing hand injuries, Crosby was hacking away at Giroux's hands every chance he could.
- FlyersSteve118


As he should have been.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 1 @ 10:13 AM ET
The Flyers tried to hide Giroux's hand injuries a couples years back before the playoffs. When the media finally got their hands on the story that Giroux might be experiencing hand injuries, Crosby was hacking away at Giroux's hands every chance he could.
- FlyersSteve118



He wasn't the only guy getting hacked on the hands/wrists that series, that's for sure. On the flip side, everybody knows about Crosby's concussion history and I didn't see any Flyers deliberately targeting his head in that series.

If Kimmo's injury is disclosed only as a UBI and if I'm a player fully intent on hurting him? I'm testing everything above the waist now... I'm hacking his wrists, I'm putting his shoulders into the glass, I'm spearing him in the back, and maybe if I work up the nerve, I may target his head.

But if the Flyers come out and say it's a concussion (or facial injury), and I know I may be out for the PO's if I target his head and get caught? I may not spend so much time testing the rest of his upper body for weaknesses.

The result is not so much protecting the player, as it is protecting the sanctity of the dressing room.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Apr 1 @ 10:19 AM ET
Tim Panaccio: So Why the Secrecy?
- tpanaccio

You ever think that federal HIPAA privacy laws might be in the equation for releasing such information?
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Apr 1 @ 10:21 AM ET
He wasn't the only guy getting hacked on the hands/wrists that series, that's for sure. On the flip side, everybody knows about Crosby's concussion history and I didn't see any Flyers deliberately targeting his head in that series.

If Kimmo's injury is disclosed only as a UBI and if I'm a player fully intent on hurting him? I'm testing everything above the waist now... I'm hacking his wrists, I'm putting his shoulders into the glass, I'm spearing him in the back, and maybe if I work up the nerve, I may target his head.

But if the Flyers come out and say it's a concussion (or facial injury), and I know I may be out for the PO's if I target his head and get caught? I may not spend so much time testing the rest of his upper body for weaknesses.

The result is not so much protecting the player, as it is protecting the sanctity of the dressing room.

- Tomahawk


Doesn't that protect the injured area if they can't find it? If a player is taking liberties like that they are surely going to target and try to re-injure if they know the exact area of injury. Not disclosing the injury makes it a guessing game. I am not sure what your trying to say by this.
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